aca is implemented, it will be felt in states that have not implemented exchanges. we hear every day how much health care costs are effecting business decisions. we are trying to make sure that input from companies like yours gets to washington and washington reacts. host: atlanta, georgia. independent caller. caller: my first observation is i thought you said your organization predated the obama administration. guest: the reference to the word "forward" and how do you obama administration used in the campaign, but we have been named in 2009. host: he was saying before the reelection campaign. caller: the small business groups you represent, where their feelings about tax reform, and specifically what they support a national sales tax? i supported in gary johnson. regarding the affordable care act, will your membership consider abandoning -- providing health care or health insurance for employees and letting them deal with these exchanges in order to save money? my understanding is the affordable care act is onerous on small business. thank you. guest: . right. just